Cécile Blaireau, Teacher, Entrepreneur, In Conversation with Edx Education

 

Cécile Blaireau, Teacher, Entrepreneur, In Conversation with Edx Education

Espisode – 29 – Heather Welch from Edx Education in conversation with Cecile .

Cécile Blaireau, The Frenchie Mummy is a mum to the cheeky Baba, Ex-teacher, she has been blogging about her life as a French ex-pat in the UK. She is on a mission to empower and inspire mums to be amazing. She loves presenting you with family-friendly places in Kent and London and French fashion through her award winning blog!

Today we are chatting to Cecile,  about home learning, importance of skills learnt in the last 12 months for children, being bi lingual & where to next with “The Frenchie Mummy”…

Here are the highlights from the episode:

{2:00} How Cecile started her blog
{4:05} Tips for Mums who want to start their own blog
{8:30} Maternity leave in lockdown
{12:25} Ceciles approach to home learning during the last year as an ex-Teacher
{16:21} Cecile’s career before The Frenchie Mummy
{24:50} Cecile’s most memorable moment in lockdown
{27:40} The worry about our children’s academic losses, social skills, and imagination

Heather Welch

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Heather Welch(00:32)

I’m Heather Welch from edxeducation. And today we’ll be in conversation with Cecile also known as the Frenchie. Mommy Cecile is a mum to a cheeky Bubba and ex teacher. She’s been blogging about her life as a French ex-pat in the UK. She’s on a mission to empower and inspire moms to be amazing. She loves presenting you with family-friendly places in Kent and London, French fashion through her award-winning blog.

Today, we’re chatting with Cecile about her home learning importance of skills learned in the last 12 months being bilingual and where to next with the Frenchie. Mommy. Welcome Cecile. It’s wonderful. You could join us today. Can you introduce your passion for brightening up everyone’s day by sharing your tips and advice on fashion and parenting?

Cécile Blaireau (01:17)

Hi I’m so thanks again for having me. I basically started my blog back in 2016. It started during my maternity leave. I was off work for all year and I wanted to share my journey and my experience with other men. And I also wanted to share how you can be a kick-ass man and try to empower ladies who have children.

Heather Welch (01:43)

I love all your different blogs and everything that you have Cecile. So you have anything from lifestyle, eating, travel, beauty and fashion, which is amazing. So it’s always, it’s a nice go-to and also you’ve won a lot of awards. So how has this all come about?

Cécile Blaireau (02:00)

Well, I think when you, basically, when you start a blog, it’s all about like having a community and getting to know you, it just didn’t happen overnight. Um, I’ve been doing it for five years now. So I think at first I pretty much started like many other mummy bloggers. It was just a place, an outlet for me to, to share about being a home with Maddie to one. And also I felt like I needed to little to project on my own. I used to work in as a teacher that before I had my son and the first few weeks were amazing at home with him, it was just, you know, just all the new thing and loving it all.

And then very quickly I realized that I needed a project for myself. So I started with my blog and I first, I think probably just my friends, my family name, my mom, uh, were reading it.

Cécile Blaireau (02:51)

But very quickly I discovered that there’s a blogging community where you can engage. And I started talking to other bloggers on Twitter, Facebook, and then it just, you know, it’s just growing gradually. Basically you just get people and grow your social media, I suppose. And more people read my blog. And one day out of the blue, I got this person saying we would like to give you an award. And because you’re one of the top mummy blogger in the country.

So it was just a surprise. I think it’s just being visible, like every day, create some content and share, share my life. Basically with my old Jensen, I’ve been growing it very slowly over the last five years. It’s just daily little things, just sharing a life as a mum and expect mum in the UK every day.

Heather Welch (03:42)

Do you have tips for moms that want to start a blog that maybe thinking about maybe they’ve come from corporate roles and you sort of get thrown into this, you know, this amazing maternity leave, but then as you said before, then you have to start a project for yourself kind of to keep saying, and you know, it might even be to, for personal development or even feeling like you’re, you know, giving back as well.

Cécile Blaireau (04:05)

Yes, yes, absolutely. I think when I became a mum, I realized that very quickly, I couldn’t have it all, you know, we’ve got this, this idea. I was quite naive in a way. I was basically my thirties and I thought that I could add it all the job, the, the baby, the house, the lifestyle, you know, and, and you realize that sometimes you can’t have it all, you have to let things go and you have new priorities when you become a parent.

So that’s why I’m trying to do, I think I’m trying to show to moms that it’s okay not to have it, you know, and not to be perfect, but basically sometimes I feel like the work-life balance we’ve being sold or told in the media we can have is not happening aware. So I don’t know if she didn’t know what I mean. Like sometimes it’s more like finding a nominee. There’s some aspects of my life that I’m more important at times.

Heather Welch (05:03)

So I think mine is isn’t motherhood, constant compromise

Cécile Blaireau  (05:08)

And be authentic as well. I think if you, if you go back to your first question as well, if you want to start a blog, I think it’s an amazing, amazing project, you know, to do. When I started mine, it was just for me to, to, to like, um, express my feelings and kind of like having a journal where I could go back and, you know, read my, my feelings and my emotions at the time. So just start being you being authentic and try to meet other bloggers. It’s very easy.

Once you start to getting out there using the hashtags on Twitter, on Facebook, I remember very, very quickly literally having this connection with people. And I think sometimes you do that as well to meet people. Like I was basically on my own in this house with my baby, I needed to meet other parents.

Heather Welch (05:58)

So if you are there talking about your life and willing to meet new friends, it’s, it’s the perfect way to do it. Just get started. And also don’t other think it like before actually starting mine, I waited two months because I was, I was walking and I was thinking, Oh, I would like to write a review about the burglary we used to have. And, um, I was very conscious, you know, at first I was like, who’s going to read my blog. I mean, nobody’s going to be interested in me. And I remember telling my, um, my boyfriend, I said, Oh, well, we’re thinking, you know, it’s nice now I’m at home and everything, but I will likely to project for myself. What about idea blog? And he laughed.

He laughed at me because I’m very not technical. So don’t get scared with all the technical Academy, gov, you know, you know, you’ve got WordPress or other website and they get, you started quickly. I was like, what is a widget? What is SEO? And all that. And he loved it me. And he was like, that’s not going to last two months. You know, you rubbish with computers. I am not going to help you every time you’ve got them. This is your project. If you decide to do it, you go for it. So that’s why I decided to call him grumpy boyfriend,

Cécile Blaireau (07:10)

Sometimes just don’t be scared, go for it. And don’t wait for the moment because sometimes you can always say like one and a half time, I’ve got this, I’ll do it later. If you want it, do it now. It won’t be perfect, but you will get better over time. I mean, if I look at my first photos on my first post or when I started in 2016, I don’t think the quality was right. You know, I don’t think it was amazing, but I’ve just practiced. And I think, no, my pictures, I wouldn’t call myself a photographer, but my pictures are better. So just go have a go do it and connect with other people. You will make lots of friends.

There’s so many nice people on there. And I think also people want to see real, real life like us. You know, I’m just, I’m just normal mummy. And you know, they don’t want you to see or read about famous people or sometimes they do, but they also want this more normal side, I suppose. That’s probably why. Yeah, probably why it works in a way. Yeah.

Heather Welch (08:15)

True. I mean, as a mum, when you first, if you’ve, you know, a lot of people have children a lot older and they’ve had a corporate career or they’ve had a career and they find that transition really hard, cause it can be quite lonely or isolating. I mean the last 12 months for many people that have had locked down babies,

Cécile Blaireau (08:30)

I can’t imagine not having play date or playgroup. I feel really bad for those moms. They’re really missing out and it’s not a real maternity leave. Is it? I mean,

Heather Welch (08:41)

No, it’s not really metallic. I suppose

Cécile Blaireau  (08:44)

The way you can connect with people on social media. I mean, I made friends, there’s some people I consider my friends live in Canada and even America I’ve never met them physically, but I do, I do consider them my friends. So it’s probably a way to do it, especially in lockdown. I think it’s, it’s a great way actually to express yourself and meet other people.

Heather Welch (09:06)

Okay. So seal the last 12 months, we’ve overlaid on social media and also digital, you know, any sort of digital forums a lot more than we have any other times. So, you know what I mean, as a society, how has the attitudes changed towards say bloggers or influencers that you think, do you think it’s more positive? Do you think it’s people are relying on them for like authentic reviews for products?

Cécile Blaireau (09:30)

I think people see someone like me, like a small blogger. I don’t consider myself a big influencer. You know, like those people were on TV and then they just become influencers and sell the product. I think they see us as like more authentic and relatable because I’m, I’m, I’m just honest. I give him my opinion, you know, if there’s something that I like, I would just say it. And also I think sometimes I like to reflect a lot on what I’m doing and, and also showing not the perfect side of things. You know, sometimes I admit to my Instagram, okay. Today as a mum I found and I think it’s very natural and it’s only human people want to see this human side of you.

I think that’s where they, like, you know, they feel like you’re more like them in a way. And the trust probably, um, bloggers like me because, because you test product, you know, you really try them. And I think if you, if you can see the passion and the love of a product on nine it’s, it’s obvious the way people talk about it. Like bloggers like me, for example, if, if I show a video of my son using, uh, a toil or something, he likes, it’s just not fake. You can’t fake that. It’s just realizing that it’s just happening is something in the mind.

Heather Welch (10:51)

No, children are very good. They ground you very quickly when it comes to toys.

Cécile Blaireau (10:56)

Yes. Yeah. And I think, um, well, my son is, and I am too actually I’m, I’m really, um, I’m really expressive. People always sound like a book open my face. I can’t lie. People just see what, when I think and how I feel about things. So yeah. I think parents actually look at people like me because I’m just like them basically, you know? And I’m just going to say it the way I, I think, and that’s it

Heather Welch  (11:23)

Do it as well in that authentic way. Yeah. So the last 12 months was Barbara at home with you, is he been at home on and off for school closures?

Cécile Blaireau  (11:31)

So you started school in September. So for the first look down, we obviously had him at home about three months, I think. And then when they reopened nurseries, he went back in June for a little bit. Then we had the summer holiday and he started school in September. And then obviously we’ve been in lockdown we’re based in Kent. So we were in chiro three. So we were already like kind of locked down back in October, but I stopped school before Christmas and it’s just been back three or four weeks now, I think just, yeah. So he’s been pretty much with me for three months and last year as well. So a lot of time at home with me.

Heather Welch (12:13)

Have you been, have you found, I mean, as an ex teacher, have you been home learning with Baba, like doing it? Has it been a play-based approach? Are you teaching him friends?

Cécile Blaireau (12:25)

Um, so I speak to him in French and we have a French books every day. So we read, we speak French. We also do like five stories or sometimes we watch French cartoons together, but I’ve not really like put too much emphasis on that. I don’t want to stress him about it because obviously he lives in the UK. So he’s got a big British environment. And also we haven’t seen much in my family, of course. So it is just some things I implement everyday.

I just speak to him in French. And it’s nice starting to produce some words in French or sometimes it makes it boss. He knows a lot of French words when it’s about food, for example. So it would say, Oh, can I have a brioche memo? It’s quite funny. He knows in those of food because obviously I’m the one in charge and they’re speaking French and diet

Heather Welch (13:13)

Over the last time I was being quite nice. You’ve been able to, I suppose, speak to him more and more. Have you seen that improve?

Cécile Blaireau  (13:20)

I think actually, yes. Now you talk about, it’s very interesting because I feel before, obviously my partner is English, so we see a lot of his family and he used to be at nursery and English environment. And now you say it actually is spend more time with me as been talking more French. He obviously understands, but it was never really eager to talk much, but obviously, you know, his main language is still English because he’s in a British environment. But now yeah, since he’s been, not at home with me is actually speaking more French. They’re interesting. I didn’t realize

Heather Welch (13:54)

Because it’s just naturally, I suppose that he’s just done it over the last few weeks. It’s like my,

Cécile Blaireau  (13:59)

Yeah. And more time with me, I suppose. He’s get more French in cut, whereas nobody would be at nurseries. So in English environment, absolutely

Heather Welch (14:07)

Because they don’t start French at school until, I don’t know, year three. Yeah.

Cécile Blaireau  (14:13)

It depends on the school. Some schools do it. And I think that primary school there, they always try to have a language. So it’s either French or Spanish, but very often Spanish. So it depends on the school. And you know, they just have like one hour a week and he’s basically playing games in financial and singing song. It’s just to introduce them, which is really lovely. So in a way skirt, but it’s funny, you know, it was, it was always a bit reluctant sometimes. Do you speak French? But now it’s more natural I suppose, because they spend more time with me as well.

Heather Welch (14:45)

So you notice it more and more over the Easter holidays break that he’ll come and speak French. Actually you can have a secret language. Does your grumpy boyfriend speak French because then you can have a secret language and say things when you get

Cécile Blaireau (14:58)

Very basic. And sometimes I speak to you to Ababa and he’s like, I don’t know what you do talking about. So that’s brilliant because, but yeah, by by is, um, is not really good at keeping Ctrip secrets anyway. So it tends to translate. She’s studied English, but we really wanted to put his mind to it. I think we could, but now he’s not really good at keeping secrets. He actually told his dad the other day he went up because obviously like my boyfriend or his birthday was like two weeks ago. So I got him, um, a nice craft beer books. So I was like, very quick you hide it and everything.

He’s so it, so I was, you know, wrapping it up nice. And he said, Oh, what is that? So explain, you know, it’s a secret it’s present for Piper. And next thing I know, I hear him upstairs going pop high or buzzy presents arrived. You’re going to get some bears. And there was like, that was supposed to be secret children. It was like, so it just, yeah, it just so natural. I was like, okay. Lesson learned, you will never, ever had a secret from me ever. No. Yeah.

Heather Welch (16:01)

You have to hide it in the car and bring it in at night when they’re asleep. And then if they find that you’ve got to, you’ve got to find the loft anywhere under the bed, wherever they’re not going to hide. You need to do it that way. But listen, I’d love to hear about your career before the French. You mommy, I understand that your French teacher in schools in the UK.

Cécile Blaireau (16:21)

Yeah. So, um, I went to university in France and then basically back in 2008, I applied to be, um, language assistant. They call that SLF or language assistant. So I applied with the British council and I got a job in a school in Southeast London. And I was, uh, with French classes, basically helping the teachers to do their GCSE is role-plays and stuff like that. And because I liked it so much, I thought, you know, at first it was just like a project.

I was going to stay one year improved practice, my English just go home. And then I wanted to be a French teacher in France, but I loved it so much. I decided that I was going to take the course and do the PGC to become, um, an official teacher in England. So I did that and then I met my boyfriend.

Cécile Blaireau  (17:07)

So I had another reason to stay. And I started working in a secondary school as a French and Spanish teacher in, um, Southeast London. So that was 2011 and I was working there for five, six years. Yeah. Six years. And I was teaching bus, um, um, secondary, so GCSE and A-level classes as well. So that was a dream country. It was my job. I always wanted to be a teacher. And, um, I got lucky too, to have the opportunity to do it in a foreign country in the UK.

So that was really, really good. I really sharing about my country, my culture and seeing the kids practicing it, proving the French and you know, like seeing them able to speak in my language. That was just, that was just amazing. It was really, really important to me. It was not a job. It was a vacation. I really wanted to, to share that and, and, and teach us you pose. Yeah. Teach a language. Yes.

Heather Welch (18:17)

So lovely. What’s the first thing you teach children in a French class.

Cécile Blaireau (18:23)

Uh, so in your seven, we will start with the greetings. Like [inaudible] drew. My parents are happy to see your name, how to ask your name, uh, simple greetings, like goodbye. And then you move on to like numbers, you know, how to see your birthday, how old you are, and also pets, family members. Those are all the fun times and always yes. Ever, you do so many games. And it’s just, it’s just really interesting actually, because I used some flashcards of the lockdown with my son to teach him and do a bit of French with him. So I was reusing my resources.

I created ages ago, uh, with my year seven classes and I also used to work in a French school, um, such a different school in Greenwich. So I had resources as well, got lots of worksheet books. And it’s just, it’s just amazing to see, especially at this age, you know, they’re so young, they just, they just get so much and they remember so much, their brain is just like as poems and they, it’s just, it’s just really magical.

Heather Welch (19:23)

Languages is really important. One of my children’s. So, um, my oldest child, we lived in Singapore at the time when he was 18 months, two is about three or four. And we, he used to learn, learn Chinese and English at his kindergarten. And it was really lovely because he cottoned onto their language really quickly. I mean, I, as I’ve mentioned before, I’m quite tone deaf and language. So for example, if I was to speak French to you, but what you just saying, I could say [inaudible], you know, that’s about, that’s about as good as my language gets in French.

Whereas my husband is fluent. He’s an amazing way to hear language and hear the sounds and whether it’s Arabic or Chinese. So I’m very jealous of that. Actually. I think that’s an amazing thing. There may be in time with more practice

Cécile Blaireau  (20:15)

About knowing it. Oh, you know, like even if you go to France, you just making the effort to say [inaudible], I think it’s always so lovely. You know, like going to a country, even if you just say a few words, you know, you don’t speak it fluently, but you just make the effort to say, hello, goodbye. I love that. Going to country, making sure I just know those basic. And I say to everyone, I can just say, hello, this is me. Happy connect with you. I just, I think it’s amazing. And it helps with so many other skills when you do languages. So that’s so true. When used to travel, we used to

Heather Welch (20:48)

Teach our child, whether it would be going to Thailand or anywhere, we’d always teach them the niceties. So, hi. Hello. Thank you very much. Can I please have your, it depends on how old they were, but they were well, when we’re, when we were traveling, it’s not been that much traveling in the last 12 months. So when we were in date, but listen, so I’ll be interested to know, you know, as a teacher and as a mommy, what do you believe is most important for children’s skills to learn when they go back and as they’re going back in the next term?

Cécile Blaireau (21:19)

Uh, for me, I think the most important was social skills. Um, that’s what I was really worried about when my son was at home with me, because I think it helps so much, you know, being with other kids, uh, learning to be with other people and not always with your parents. It just just means you like you improve your independence. And it’s just more natural than being in front of a computer to do your lesson, uh, even like your interaction with your teacher.

I mean, since my little one is back is so, so happy. I think it’s so important. Social skills definitely also imagination I would say is a good one to practice. And I think, you know, you can do that at home as a parent at the moment, we’ve got this new habit where before we go to bed, we both make up one or two stories.

Cécile Blaireau (22:10)

So he’s making up a story and making up a story. And I just love it because sometimes it comes back with some crazy things. I’m like, where did you get that from? You’ve got so much imagination. You know, sometimes as adults, we just tend to forget this, you know, this creativity, this imagination that children can have, which is like doing a job, a task, and we don’t create or imaging so much. And it’s just beautiful to see a child being creative like that. So, yeah, creativity, that is a very important skills as well.

Actually I think so social skills, imagination, and also curiosity. I think children being curious, you know, when they are at school or even at home, it’s so much important because if they’re curious, they want to learn more. They want to develop all the time. And I think it helps as well. The independence to be, to be honest with you, that’s one of the keys.

Heather Welch(23:07)

Absolutely. I have to agree. Curiosity, creativity, imagination, social skills. I know that my older child, he was on a CIS five, six hours of zoom a day. It was really hard.

Cécile Blaireau  (23:18)

That was all for it was we, mine was really, really small. So it just had one hour in the morning. I was very reticent at first. I was not really keen on doing it because he was so little, you know, it was only five. I think it’s difficult for them to concentrate an hour on the screen, but we did it. And you know, the school was creating so many nice resources. They were so helpful and it was nice as well for him to see his other friends, his teacher, but instead of spending so much time on the computer, I tried to make sure that we went out every day, even myself, I actually learned again, to reconnect with nature, you know, like to stop going to the woods, listen to the birds, touching the trees, look at the leaves, how the wind is moving them.

Just things like that, like yeah, reconnecting with nature was so, so important. Especially during the lockdown or just, you know, stay away from devicing like, yeah. Tablet or screen. I mean, of course, if children were holder, they probably had to spend more time on the computer with a school they needed to have the education, but there’s more to it basically. I think learning

Heather Welch (24:27)

Through life skills, having the experience. And I hope that’s what we find is that children did get the opportunity. Well, let’s hope that many children had the opportunity to do that, but it depends on I suppose, where you live and if you have access to these facilities, whereas where you live, obviously you’ve got amazing access to beautiful facilities and even just natural facilities that you can go and have a look at, which is a ma, which is wonderful. I have to ask to say, what’s your most memorable moment in lockdown? One, two, three, and one, two, three. Let’s hope there’s not a full

Cécile Blaireau  (24:58)

And you knew them. You can’t remember which one are we in? And the three number before?

Cécile Blaireau (25:06)

I don’t know, let’s help note. I think for me, it’s not just special moment. It’s like different moments when my little one was at the park, you know, and we would go to like local woods or local places and it would play and he would giggle with his dad and just seeing this smile on his face and you know, like really feeling like my son and my partner were my rocks. You know, I really felt like we were a team. It was my tribe. And seeing this happiness altogether, that was just magical, you know, seeing him giggling cause his dad was tickling him in the woods or they were playing hide and seek that.

That was just very simple, but just, just pure happiness that, and also when he went back to school in, um, in March now they have eight of March, it came back. The teacher said that she could see, he made so much progress with his reading and his writing. And it was such a nice compliment because there were days when he was so difficult to get me, you know, not motivated,

Cécile Blaireau (26:15)

Motivated to say, come on, Bubba. Okay, we’re going to do a bit of writing now. I just, I think you forget because,

Cécile Blaireau (26:20)

Because you know, writing and reading for us, our natural skill that we learned ages ago, but I forgot how difficult it was to tell a fighters or what to do, try to teach him to do this and find new ways to make it fun or always make it into a game. So that could it, sometimes I really doubted myself, was I doing it the right thing? Was he progressing enough?

When the teacher said, Oh, he’s made such huge progress on his writing, I was just like, yes. Okay. I’ve done a good job. Happy days all this time. It was, it was really worth it. And, um, I’ve done my best, you know, given the circumstances. And I hope a lot of her, the parents felt like that because it was not easy. And I’m sure as long as you care and you really try, that’s all that matters.

Cécile Blaireau (27:06)

You know, I’ve, I’ve seen so many times on social media people saying, Oh, I’m struggling so much. Or I think I’m not doing enough. Or, um, I think money to one is going to fall behind. I think if you try and you care and you do is what you have because obviously, you know, you have to work and do the house and stuff around that was just, you know, a big things.

So many things to jumble together. I think that’s a lot of moms and dads need to give themselves a big Pat on the shoulder and say, well done, you’ve done it. And you’ve survived it. That’s, that’s really magical as well.

Heather Welch (27:40)

Oh, so you do hear many mums, I suppose, worried about academic losses, that what they’re calling it. But as you mentioned before, one of the things that you’re talking about is, you know, more of a loss of social skills, imagination, curiosity, and being creatives. And hopefully we do realize that actually there were many positives and people, I suppose, when we’ve got time to think about what’s happened over the last 12 months. And that’s what comes out is that many of these children had a chance to stop and change the perspective of what they were learning. They were learning, you know, as you said, one of your son, sorry, your son has reading has improved because he’s had that one-on-one time with you. And you’re used to grow

Cécile Blaireau (28:19)

Again. Teachers can’t give that, you know, she’s got 20 children in the classroom. I understand. And so it was, it was for me, it was my moment to go for it and do it. But I also think other the lockdown, I mean, I don’t know about others, but personally I really really realized once more, even more than before that you cannot tick all the boxes in a way, you know, sometimes we’re just in a rush tick, tick, tick, tick. I forgot to do that. How about just stopping, just enjoying the moment, just sit down at the park, just look, looking at him, having fun with other children.

I’m just like, Oh, that is really nice. And you know what? That was lovely. And I’m a good man for doing that. And you know, it, it doesn’t, you know, it’s not all quick, let’s have a 10 vegetables or fruit and vegetables a day, or I can, you know, sometimes you have these lists, you have this feeling, you have to tick the box. I think now we probably discovered it’s not all about that. And there’s more to it like this true contentment or happiness. Yeah. Con contract, man.

Heather Welch (29:22)

Is that the word I think I’m looking for? Yeah. Happy within the I T one thing I did enjoy is not having all the club culture, the extra sports on the week.

Cécile Blaireau (29:32)

Mine is others. So I’m, I’m really eager for him to go. Actually, it’s amazing. It’s a good community

Heather Welch (29:42)

And everything, but I quite liked my son’s really spotty. I quite liked not having the football and the rugby and all those different things. So I must be quite liked having the time as a family rather than being there for a few hours. And especially in the middle of winter, I didn’t mind not being next to a rugby pitch in the middle of winter, to be honest. Yeah.

I miss that at all. But listen. So how can our listeners get, hear more about the Frenchie mama or get in touch with you? So you can read my blog, which is simply the Frenchie money. And I’m also on Instagram at app differentiate money. And you can see all adventures in Kent. Actually. I love photos stories on my Instagram and on my blog as well. So if you are looking for places or ideas to spend some quality time outdoors with the children, definitely check out my blog.

Heather Welch (30:34)

I’m going to do way more on Kent and give you all the good place here, the free places where you can have lots of fun and, uh, make the muscle the summer in the UK. Socio thank you so much for joining us today. And please get in touch with Cecile and the Frenchie mama on Instagram, or have a checkout at her blogs for lots of lifestyle advice. There’s fashion advice, there’s food and there’s parenting advice too. So you can head over and she’d love to have a chat with you. So thank you very much, Cecile for joining.

Heather Welch (31:05)

Thank you so much for having me. There are so many exciting developments happening right now in education edx education would love to hear from you. So do you get in touch with subscribed 12 foot cups, which is available on Apple, Spotify tune-in and so many more, this podcast series is brought to you by Heather Welch from Edx education. The she’d like to say let’s create lifelong learners.